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Release Date
  1985-11-05 12:00:00 AM
Record Label
  Factory
Catalog Number
  FAC 133
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Subculture
 


Versions & Track Listings
7"uk1985FactoryFAC 133 
7"uk1985FactoryFAC 133/7Promo
1-01 New OrderSubculture7" Edit3:24 
1-02 New OrderSubcultureDub-Vulture 7" Edit3:34 
12"au1985FactoryFAC 133 
12"au1990Factory/FestivalX14834 
12"be1986FactoryFAC 133 
12"ca1985Factory/PolygramFACX 24Unique sleeve
12"de1985Rough TradeRTD 023T 
12"es1985Factory/Nuevos Medios31164 
12"fr1986Virgin80224 
12"jp1985Factory/Nippon ColumbiaYW-7433-AX 
12"jp1986Factory/Nippon ColumbiaYW-7433-AXPromo
12"nz1985EMI NZ Ltd.FAC 133 
12"se1985Factory/MNWFAC 133 
12"uk1985FactoryFAC 133 
1-01 New OrderSubcultureJohn Robbie Remix7:26 
1-02 New OrderSubcultureDub-Vulture7:57  Windows Media
12"us1985Qwest9 20390-0 
1-01 New OrderSubcultureJohn Robbie Remix7:26 
1-02 New OrderSubcultureDub-Vulture7:57Labeled "Subvulture" Windows Media
1-03 New OrderSubcultureAlbum Version4:54  Windows Media
7"be1985Factory7FAC133 
1-01 New OrderSubcultureBenelux 7" Edit4:57 
1-02 New OrderSubcultureAlbum Version4:54  Windows Media
12"us1985Frankford/Wayne Mastering LabsHP-BOne sided acetate
1-01 New OrderSubcultureJohn Robbie Remix7:26 
12"uk2006Amatonser019 5050072402269 
1-01 New OrderSubcultureDub-Vulture7:57  Windows Media
1-02 New OrderState of the NationShame of the Nation7:54  Windows Media
1-03 New OrderI Told You SoStuart Price's Remix5:25 
Release Notes
Q: What is Bernard singing in the sentence "you'll realize you can't ??? without someone else"?
A: There are a lot of different interpretation of Bernard's singing, the most common suggestions for the above lyrics are that he is singing, "show off" or "shop". However, listening to the lyrics from Pumped Full of Drugs one can hear that Bernard sings "shaft", which is english slang for having sex. Then again, Bernard is famous for altering lyrics when performing live...

Q: Why does it only exists a regular black sleeve for Sub-culture?
A: Apparently the designer of New Order's sleeves, Peter Saville, thought the mix of the song was so crappy that he didn't want to design a sleeve.

Q: Are the 7" and 12" releases from Benelux (BL) Factory Benelux releases?
A: [Frank Brinkhuis] "These 2 were issued by EMI in the Benelux, who at that time were also distributors of Factory Benelux, but I wouldn't call them Factory Benelux releases. Benelux editions of FAC 133, that is what they are. The labels don't have an FBN logo, don't say 'Factory Benelux'. They only say 'A Factory Record FAC 133', 'Biem/Sabam' and 'Made In EEC'"
[Editor's note] The Benelux releases of "State of the Nation" and "Bizarre Love Triangle" are not Factory Benelux either.
Credits
Chart Position
YearCountryChartHighest Position
1985uk 7
1985USHot Dance Music/Club Play35
1985USHot Dance Music/Maxi-Singles Sales18
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Discographic information by T. Ivarsson, Dennis Remmer, R.P. Kernin, Fernando Lopez-de-Victoria & Nicolas LeBlanc.